Minutes for Meeting 4

Meeting 4: Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Attendees:
Abe R., Alana C., Anna F., Ashley V., Austin S., Brendan B., Chloe W., Colbie C., Dennis W., Elli T., Gabriel V., Helen B., Ian M., Isaac H., Jacob L., Lindsey S., Logan T., Rebecca B., Tyler H.
Secretary:
Elli T.
Minutes:
The rules for the club were established. This club is a commitment, not a place to hang out.

The candidates for VP gave their speeches about why they should be Vice President.
- 1st: Ian
- 2nd: Beemer
- 3rd: Chloe
Anonymous votes were taken for Vice President. Our new Vice President is Ian.

We read the handout about speeches that were given to us by Logan.

Debate #2:

This debate was about whether pro-choice or pro-life should be considered.
- Supporters for Pro-choice: Ashley, Beemer, Anna, Rebecca, Alana, Lindsey, Chloe, Elli, Gabriel, Dennis, Austin, Alex
- Pro-choice Evidence:
  - Alana: "If someone decided to give their baby away, then that would hurt the child emotionally as well as the parent."
  - Beemer: "There will be a case where someone believes that they were adopted because their parents didn't care for them."
  - Tyler: "But that's [committing suicide] because they are in trouble, like pulling a gun on themselves or something."
  - Chloe: "Aren't there situations when the murder of someone is considered good?"
  - Beemer: "Isn't there anyone here that believes Hitler should have been murdered?"
  - Tyler: "If you think that suicide is right, then you are suffering emotional problems."
- Supporters for Pro-life: Ian, Jacob, Tyler (switched sides in the middle of the debate), Abe, Helen, Logan, Colbie
- Pro-life Evidence:
  - Ian: "Are you saying that it's OK to suffocate someone in their sleep?"
  - Ian: "People have emotional problems anyway, whether they were adopted or not."
  - Abe: "None of us would ever agree to someone being murdered, alive or not."
  - Abe: "I don't think that someone making that decision [suicide] for you would be appropriate."
- Winner: What do you think, based on the evidence above? See the results here!